Abolish Copyrights and Patents? A Soho Forum Debate

I thought this was a decent debate on the subject: "Abolish Copyrights and Patents? A Soho Forum Debate" ( ▶ this video ) One thing that struck me was that both sides in that debate agreed that the current copyright/patent system was not in very good shape. That's one nuance that I think can get lost in these discussions — somebody says "copyright can be good" and is met with the retort "look at how bad our system is right now" without allowing for the possibility that we could have a better system, rather than outright abolishing it. Anyway, I think there are good points on both sides; you seem to be more on the absolutist side (fair enough), but you might enjoy watching it.

Anything by Stephan Kinsella is worth watching: ▶ this video > ignore the current economic system and wellbeing of the authors and artists who produce work. I'm not ignoring it, I will freely admit that I do not care about preserving the wealth of Atherton and Beverly Hills at the expense of poor children having second rate information. If they can figure out a way to make money in a world with actual property rights, great for them. I also don't think Oxcontin or mRNA vaccines or Fox News or CNN, etc, make a good case for having patents and copyrights.

Here is a debate on IP with two different libertarian perspective: ▶ this video `Abolish the IP laws` side provides some pointers to related research and empirical evidence against IP.