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Why Japan had NO Chance in WW2

Military History Visualized3 HN recommenders · recommended in 2 months, 2020-2023
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Military History Visualized charts ship production by the United States and Japan from December 1941 to September 1945. The growing numbers show why Japan, despite a stronger starting navy, could not win a long war.

Cited as one of the best visualizations of how overwhelmingly dominant US industrial output was in the Pacific war.

Military history & warfareShips, submarines & maritime#worldwarii#industrialcapacity#imperialjapanesenavy#usnavy#shipbuilding

6 comments from Hacker News

@sobellian2023 · in “SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System (a.k.a. R2-D2) worked by tracking the stars”

This vastly, vastly oversells the stakes of Midway. Japan lost before the war ever began[1]. By the end of the war the US produced 17 fleet carriers, 9 light carriers, and 76 escort carriers. US strength at Midway was 3 fleet carriers. By the end of 1945 the US would still have built several new Navies as well as the atomic bomb. Japan was struggling to finish China on their side of the Pacific, their armed forces would be totally incapable of securing the sea lanes to the US let alone land such a massive invasion force as to sweep across the whole continent. The Japanese war plan was strategically inept from the outset - hit the US really hard, then sue for peace from a position of strength. But even if they got the carriers at Pearl Harbor, it was only a matter of time before US industrial output buried them and they failed to account for an enemy committed to total war. The turning point happened at Midway but the specific time and place don't really matter - it was inevitable. For Japan to win the war they would have had to walk an improbable golden path from victory to decisive victory while suffering no irreplaceable losses. By the way, Germany displayed similar strategic ineptitude. Even if Germany won the Battle of Britain, they would not have been able to supply any invasion force they managed to land on Britain. They had no surface fleet, and they were staring down the largest navy in the world! All the Royal Navy needs to do is contest the Channel for a critical we

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@hirundo2022 · in “How the War Was Won”

I had no idea how asymmetrical naval production was in the Pacific theater of WWII until I watched this: ▶ this video With these numbers the relative merits of the actual warfighters had little effect on the outcome. The war with Japan was won in U.S. shipyards.

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@GrumpyYoungMan2021 · in “Night of the Guillotine: The Fall of Robespierre”

Probably Military History Visualized's " Why Japan had NO Chance in WW2 ": ▶ this video . Go to the 12:30 mark for the the near-final ship totals.

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@onepointsixC2021 · in “We only ever talk about the third attack on Pearl Harbor”

Midway had it's fortunate moments, but IJN didn't have much of a chance from the get go due to the absurd USN ship production: ▶ this video

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@yborg2020 · in “U.S. Torpedo Troubles During World War II (1998)”

▶ this video One of the best visualizations I've come across of just how dominant the US industrial base was in the 1940s under full mobilization.

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@DuskStar2020 · in “U.S. Torpedo Troubles During World War II (1998)”

My understanding is that while the US losing her carriers at Midway would have allowed Japan free reign in the South Pacific for a few months, that was already the case for anywhere that all 6 fleet carriers showed up. Nothing the US had - combined, worldwide - could match those 6. Killing the US carriers at Midway was just to turn it from a 6v3 to a 6v0 - instead it ended up 2v2, but so goes war. Japan invading Hawaii would have caused a famine if they succeeded - it'd be even harder to keep supplied than Midway, but with dozens of times the population. In my opinion Midway marked the turning point of the war in the Pacific, but that turning point was inevitable as long as the US could credibly say "we're going to commission 6 fleet carriers with a full suite of aircraft over a 12 month period". There's a great video here [0] that illustrates the differences in production over the course of the war. For instance, the US commissioned 17 fleet carriers and 9 light carriers from 1941 on - Japan commissioned 7 and 1, respectively. 0: ▶ this video

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