HackerTube
HomeLongsLikedHistoryWatch laterCategoriesPlaylistsSettings

If Russ Ackoff had given a TED Talk...

Steven Brant2 HN recommenders · recommended in 3 months, 2020-2025
YouTube
306K views · 16 years ago · talk · evergreen

A 1994 talk by systems thinker Russ Ackoff, who knew W. Edwards Deming, on continuous versus discontinuous improvement. It ends with an unexpected lesson.

HN favors it as a compact, quotable management and systems-thinking talk, often cited for doing the right thing versus doing the wrong thing right.

Management, leadership & organizationsTech pioneers & interviews#russackoff#deming#systemsthinking#continuousimprovement#management

5 comments from Hacker News

@notpachet2025 · in “Comprehension debt: A ticking time bomb of LLM-generated code”

> It's amazing how fast the code goes when you know exactly what you want. To quote Russ Ackoff[1]: > Improving a system requires knowing what you could do if you could do whatever you wanted to. Because if you don't know what you would do if you could do whatever you wanted to, how on earth are you going to know what you can do under constraints? [1] ▶ this video

CitesView on HN
@notpachet2023 · in “Risky Giant Steps Can Solve Optimization Problems Faster”

"Continuous improvement isn't nearly as important as discontinuous improvement. Creativity is a discontinuity. A creative act breaks with the chain that has come before it. It's not continuous. One never becomes a leader by continuously improving -- that's imitation of the leader. You never become a leader by imitating them and improving slightly. You only become a leader by leapfrogging those who are ahead of you. And that comes about through creativity." -- Russ Ackoff ▶ this video

CitesView on HN
@Litost2022 · in “Deming's Red Bead Experiment (2002)”

Thanks for the suggestion, how does what he says stack up against those who came after, I ask this because this is one of my favourite management talks by Russell Ackoff [1] and he mentions Dr Deming so assume he was influenced by/worked/studied with him and given their relative ages wondered if his work might be valuable to start with? [1] ▶ this video

Strongly recommendsView on HN
@Litost2021 · in “Efficiency Is the Enemy”

This quote “You’re efficient when you do something with minimum waste. And you’re effective when you’re doing the right something.” reminds me of a Systems Thinking talk Russell Ackoff gave a long time ago [1] where he talks about the difference between doing "the right thing wrong" and the "wrong thing right" and getting more efficient at doing the wrong thing obviously might not be optimal :). This is actually a concept that Peter Drucker came up with, but I've not managed to find a good link to that, I'd be interested if anyone has? The whole talk is quite interesting, but I've linked to the relevant segment: [1] ▶ this video

RecommendsView on HN
@Barrin922020 · in “Scientists’ warning on affluence”

I think the article is right. Vaclav Smil has pointed out that today the share of fossil fuels, at about 90% of global energy consumed[1] is actually higher than in 2000, and falling at a snails pace. There is a worrying trend emerging, fuelled by the tech industry of performative environmentalism that seeks to promise absolution like the church did by buying Tesla's and biodegradable cups while the real-world impact is marginal while leaving the fundamental flaws of the system untouched. We won't consume ourselves out of the doghouse. Russ Ackoff in a great talk about systems thinking[2] once pointed out a few salient things 1. Counter to intuition one does not improve a system by merely removing deficiencies. Doing away with what you don't want doesn't get you what you want. 2. Incrementalism doesn't solve fundamentally new problems, rearranging deck chairs on the titanic is pointless, and people confuse efficiency with effectiveness. Doing the wrong thing right is worse than doing the right thing wrong. 3. One must recognise that like an architect, a designer does not design rooms independently of the house. One starts with the house, and only changes parts as to improve the overall functioning of the system, never the parts alone. This is what needs to be applied to modern environmentalism. Woke green consumerism and tech worship is useless. The entire global system needs to be redesigned, instead of trying to fix individual parts. We need to think in holistic terms rathe

RecommendsView on HN
Alan Kay : July 2007 : A Conversation with CMU Faculty & Students1:20:48

Alan Kay : July 2007 : A Conversation with CMU Faculty & Students

CMU Robotics Institute
13K views • 10 years ago
Why 90% of Managers Are GARBAGE (The Professional Lie) | Steve Jobs3:54

Why 90% of Managers Are GARBAGE (The Professional Lie) | Steve Jobs

Evan Carmichael
4.6M views • 11 years ago
Founder School Session: The Future Doesn't Have to Be Incremental43:50

Founder School Session: The Future Doesn't Have to Be Incremental

DEMO
47K views • 12 years ago
Gabe Newell: On Productivity, Economics, Political Institutions, and the Future of Corporations1:02:04

Gabe Newell: On Productivity, Economics, Political Institutions, and the Future of Corporations

blogphilofilms
714K views • 13 years ago
Alan Kay: A powerful idea about teaching ideas20:38

Alan Kay: A powerful idea about teaching ideas

TED
51K views • 18 years ago
Steve Jobs Content vs Process2:38

Steve Jobs Content vs Process

Bo Manton
119K views • 13 years ago
Gabe Newell: Reflections of a Video Game Maker1:02:53

Gabe Newell: Reflections of a Video Game Maker

The LBJ School
919K views • 13 years ago
Alan Kay - Normal Considered Harmful1:07:26

Alan Kay - Normal Considered Harmful

powerfuloutlet
60K views • 14 years ago
Reinventing Organizations1:42:52

Reinventing Organizations

Reinventing Organizations
503K views • 12 years ago
Rethinking CS Education | Alan Kay, CrossRoads 20151:10:32

Rethinking CS Education | Alan Kay, CrossRoads 2015

Infosys Foundation USA
28K views • 10 years ago
Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel - Fortune Debate, 201237:16

Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel - Fortune Debate, 2012

kykeon
208K views • 11 years ago
Steve Jobs on Failure1:43

Steve Jobs on Failure

Silicon Valley Historical Association
6.7M views • 15 years ago
Steve Jobs : Great idea doesn't always translates into great product5:50

Steve Jobs : Great idea doesn't always translates into great product

Investors Archive
106K views • 6 years ago
Red Bead Experiment with Dr. W. Edwards Deming9:01

Red Bead Experiment with Dr. W. Edwards Deming

The Deming Institute
231K views • 12 years ago
Where good ideas come from | Steven Johnson18:17

Where good ideas come from | Steven Johnson

TED
1.7M views • 16 years ago
Alan Kay - Programming and Scaling56:39

Alan Kay - Programming and Scaling

Colin McDonnell
36K views • 11 years ago
Peter Thiel on "The Portal", Episode #001: "An Era of Stagnation & Universal Institutional Failure."2:52:07

Peter Thiel on "The Portal", Episode #001: "An Era of Stagnation & Universal Institutional Failure."

Eric Weinstein
1.2M views • 7 years ago
The puzzle of motivation | Dan Pink | TED18:37

The puzzle of motivation | Dan Pink | TED

TED
12.8M views • 17 years ago
The surprising habits of original thinkers | Adam Grant | TED15:25

The surprising habits of original thinkers | Adam Grant | TED

TED
12M views • 10 years ago
Daniel Schmachtenberger on The Portal (with host Eric Weinstein), Ep. #027 - On Avoiding Apocalypses3:33:35

Daniel Schmachtenberger on The Portal (with host Eric Weinstein), Ep. #027 - On Avoiding Apocalypses

Eric Weinstein
389K views • 6 years ago