HackerTube
HomeLongsLikedHistoryWatch laterCategoriesPlaylistsSettings

Why guitarists USED TO play more in tune! (Microtonal Frets)

Brandon Acker3 HN recommenders · recommended in 3 months, 2022-2026
YouTube
320K views · 4 years ago · demo · evergreen

Classical guitarist Brandon Acker shows how guitars with tied-on gut frets, as used 300 years ago, can play more in tune than modern fixed metal frets. He demonstrates microtonal and meantone tunings on a guitar with movable frets.

Pointed to in tuning and temperament threads as an audible demonstration of how meantone differs from equal temperament.

Music theory, synthesis & productionMusic performance & songs#gutfrets#meantone#microtonal#temperament#classicalguitar

5 comments from Hacker News

@magicalhippo2026 · in “Why your guitar goes sharp when you play hard: the Kirchoff–Carrier equation”

I'd just say I'm playing microtonal music[1][2] and not worry about it. Jokes aside, great read. Always so satisfying when the predictions match experiment. [1]: link (for the latest craze in microtonal music) [2]: ▶ this video (for a more informative and historical video)

RecommendsView on HN
@mbo2026 · in “The Mathematics of Tuning Systems”

If anyone wants to hear the practical effects of a 1/4 comma meantone temperament compared to an equal temperament, Brandon Acker gives a wonderful overview on the classical guitar: ▶ this video

RecommendsView on HN
@tzs2026 · in “The Mathematics of Tuning Systems”

An interesting option for fretted instruments is to build it with 12 regular frets per octave, and then add temporary extra frets if you want to make specific notes more in tune for the key you are in. This was common for lute players in the Renaissance and Baroque periods. Lute frets were usually made of the same material as strings and were tied on around the neck, so adding an extra full width fret was not hard. Of course being tied on lute frets were also movable, so they could also reposition the regular 12 frets instead of adding extras. Instead of tying on an extra full width frets another common option was partial frets. They would glue a piece of string or wood under a specific string, to just give an option to play one note with either the regular fret or the more in tone little fret (called a "tastino" (plural is "tastini")). In this video [1] Brandon Acker uses a guitar that his luthier friend was building that had not yet had the frets installed to demonstrate with lute style tied on frets some different 12 tone tunings, then demonstrates using tastini to improve specific notes, such as little fret on the G string a little before the first regular fret so that G♯ and A♭ can be different notes. The tastini he uses in the video are simply pieces of string held on with a piece of tape, so quick and easy to add and remove. [1] ▶ this video

CitesView on HN
@tzs2024 · in “What Is Wrong with Everyone?”

Lutes and other fretted instruments in western music back in the renaissance used tied on frets. Each fret was a piece of string tied in a loop around the neck. This meant it was relatively easy to change the position of frets if you wanted to try different temperaments. They could also take small pieces of string and glue them on, so at some places on some strings have an extra option, so that say fretting at the tied on fret would give say Db but fretting on the little glued on fret next to that would give C#. That sounds like what that viola da gamba player might have had. Here are a couple of videos where Brandon Acker (guitarist/lutist/etc) and Marshall Brune (luthier) played around with doing this on a modern Spanish style classical guitar. In the first video [1] they take a guitar Brune was building but had not yet had frets put on and tied gut frets on it. In the second [2] Acker explores moving the frets to better tune the guitar for specific pieces, and then explores adding those extra small frets to some notes. [1] link ▶ this video

CitesView on HN
@tzs2022 · in “Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different notes?”

Guitarist might find three videos recently posted to classical guitarist and lutist Brandon Acker's YouTube channel interesting. Lutes and early guitars (before around 1800) did not have metal frets. Instead they used pieces of string tied around the neck. They did this because the strings were very expensive, with a set of strings for a lute often costing more than the rest of the lute, and strings were not as robust as more modern strings. With metal frets strings would wear out faster. You could easily end up spending more per year on strings than you had initially spent on your instrument. By making the frets of the same material as the strings they didn't need to change strings as often. Acker and luthier M.E. Brune took a classical guitar Brune was building but had not yet put frets on and played around with putting on tied gut frets and gut strings. In the first video [1] they just go over the history of tied on frets, and do some comparisons with metal frets. With tied on frets it is relatively easy to try tunings other than 12-TET. You can change the position of a fret, or you can add extra frets. You can also add partial frets. Renaissance lutists would often glue on small pieces of string behind or in front of a fret. The fret would give them some particular note from a sharp/flat pair, and the little mini fret, called a tastino, would give them the other note from that pair. The second video [2] explores the tuning possibilities of tied on frets and tastinos. Acke

RecommendsView on HN
Quarter-comma Meantone with split sharps1:35

Quarter-comma Meantone with split sharps

Simon Lloyd
620K views • 8 years ago
Microtonal Guitar (Fixed Fret) - Tolgahan Çoğulu4:16

Microtonal Guitar (Fixed Fret) - Tolgahan Çoğulu

Microtonal Guitar - Tolgahan Çoğulu
13.2M views • 12 years ago
Just Intonation vs Equal Temperament3:56

Just Intonation vs Equal Temperament

Trippin' on Cookies
389K views • 12 years ago
Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In An Electric Guitar?11:54

Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In An Electric Guitar?

Jim Lill
2.9M views • 4 years ago
jacob collier tunes the piano0:52

jacob collier tunes the piano

George Collier
3.3M views • 5 years ago
Testing 432 Hz Frequencies (and temperaments)14:06

Testing 432 Hz Frequencies (and temperaments)

Adam Neely
4M views • 7 years ago
Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In A Guitar Amplifier?18:34

Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In A Guitar Amplifier?

Jim Lill
840K views • 4 years ago
Which key is the saddest?9:07

Which key is the saddest?

Adam Neely
1.3M views • 9 years ago
Notation Must Die: The Battle For How We Read Music1:16:21

Notation Must Die: The Battle For How We Read Music

Tantacrul
1.8M views • 3 years ago
New Horizons in Music: Polyrhythms | Loop45:31

New Horizons in Music: Polyrhythms | Loop

Ableton
493K views • 8 years ago
Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano4:20

Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano

minutephysics
4.1M views • 11 years ago
How can less be more?0:18

How can less be more?

Christoffer Neese
567K views • 14 years ago
4 Chords | Music Videos | The Axis Of Awesome6:20

4 Chords | Music Videos | The Axis Of Awesome

The Axis of Awesome
50.8M views • 15 years ago
Bach, Toccata and Fugue in D minor, organ8:38

Bach, Toccata and Fugue in D minor, organ

smalin
31.2M views • 20 years ago
Pachelbel Rant from 2006 [Official High Quality Re-Post]5:13

Pachelbel Rant from 2006 [Official High Quality Re-Post]

RobPRocks
346K views • 7 years ago
Why you DON'T want Perfect Pitch15:09

Why you DON'T want Perfect Pitch

Adam Neely
2.5M views • 5 years ago
Music Software & Interface Design: Steinberg's Dorico1:06:59

Music Software & Interface Design: Steinberg's Dorico

Tantacrul
949K views • 6 years ago
The Unanswered Question 1973 1  Musical Phonology Bernstein Norton1:45:38

The Unanswered Question 1973 1 Musical Phonology Bernstein Norton

cagin
742K views • 12 years ago
How A London Orchestra Broke International Law10:00

How A London Orchestra Broke International Law

12tone
270K views • 7 years ago
Learn music theory in half an hour.31:36

Learn music theory in half an hour.

ANDREW HUANG
10.6M views • 7 years ago